 
By the time Good Charlotte enter the lobby of La Plata High School, outside of Waldorf, Maryland, one snowy afternoon, most of the school's 1,500 students have left for the day. The band members aren't too old to pass for high schoolers, but with their dyed hair and copious tattoos, they stand out from the wrestlers, runners and assorted stragglers roaming the halls. Slowly, the students start to recognize the band, then rush the foursome like fans let loose backstage. Benji and Joel Madden, the twin brothers who front Good Charlotte, writing all of the group's songs and hosting a daily video show on MTV, attract most of the attention, but all four members are hounded for autographs and photos.
The irony of this scene is not lost on Good Charlotte: This is a band that sang about how much it hated this place on its debut single, "Little Things" (which recalled, among other injustices, "The time in school when we got free lunch/And the cool kids beat us up"). Now here they are getting mobbed by the same kind of jocks and overachievers who made their lives miserable. But sitting in a nearby diner, from which you can see a sign advertising the La Plata High School Mulch Sale, the band seems more amused than bitter about the bad shit that happened back then. It's not just the minor high school stuff, like when bass player Paul Thomas got expelled for threatening to punch the principal in the face, or when kids would leave messages with Benji and Joel's mom saying they were label executives offering a record deal, but also the seriously traumatic stuff, like when Benji and Joel's dad walked out one day without even saying goodbye or when the family was evicted from its suburban house and left temporarily homeless.
One reason Good Charlotte don't complain about the past is that they've already exacted revenge on Waldorf and its attendant bad memories. While their former classmates are getting married and working dead-end jobs, these unlikely successes -- all between twenty-one and twenty-four years old -- have become megapopular pop punkers, and their second album, the vibrant, hook-filled The Young and the Hopeless, has produced two TRL-topping singles and sold more than a million copies. All four are nice, regular hard-working guys whose tattooed, don't-give-a-fuck image belies their incessantly polite behavior. There's Benji, the guitarist and former bully who sometimes sounds like a guidance counselor preaching to wayward teenagers; Joel, the sweet, chatty singer who fills his lyrics with punk-rock rants but worships Morrissey; Thomas, the doughy bassist and band smartass who lives with his parents and has a serious relationship with his hairstylist girlfriend; and Billy Martin, the gothed-out guitarist who has a Nightmare Before Christmas tattoo covering his right arm, and whose idea of a good time is staying up late playing video games.
"We live pretty much the anti-rock & roll clichÈ," says Martin. "We're supposed to tell you about all of our drug problems and all this stuff. But, unfortunately, we don't have any." What they do have is lots of energy, dogged determination and a devout work ethic. So glad are they to have put bad day jobs and family troubles behind them, so tenaciously polite and dedicated are they to their working-class values, that the mere thought of acting less than totally appreciative of their situation repulses them.
Case in point: After Benji mentions that an unnamed singer in a different band behaved like an asshole during the last Warped tour, Martin delivers a lecture on the importance of humility. "It just seems like common sense that when someone does something nice for you, to say thank you," he says. "I don't know. Maybe it's because my parents were divorced. I was pretty much raised by my mom and my sister, so it's probably made me a little softer, you know?" Benji concurs: "There's no room for rock stars in this band. What's cool about shitting on people?"
When they weren't at band practice or at work during their teens, Good Charlotte could often be found at the St. Charles Town Center Mall, where they spent thousands of hours -- "probably like a year if we added it all up," figures Benji. As soon as we enter the mall this afternoon, Joel heads for a watch shop, where he does something rare for a member of Good Charlotte: He spends money on himself, buying a $500 Fendi watch. As if ashamed by Joel's sudden splurge, Benji makes a peace offering to the God of Good Manners, buying a $100 watch for his mom.
This kind of spending is new for the Madden twins. When Benji and Joel were kids, their dad (whose surname the twins ditched in favor of their mother's maiden name) bounced around from job to job, mostly as a butcher and a house painter, struggling to support the twins, their older brother Josh and younger sister Sarah. His bad temper and dissatisfaction were exacerbated by his drinking, and he often took his frustration out on his family, particularly the boys' sweet-tempered, devoutly Christian mother. "If he came home and his shoes weren't in the right place," Joel says, "he would just start going off. One time I saw him rip a phone, like, in one motion, rip the phone off the wall and throw it at my mom -- like he was pitching a baseball."
Then came Christmas Eve 1995. "My parents got into a big fight," Joel says. "Then we heard my dad getting stuff together downstairs and we didn't know what he was doing, and we heard him slam the door. I was like, 'He's probably just going for the night.' We got up the next day and it was Christmas, and we didn't really do anything except go with my mom to my aunt's house. And then we came back and my dad was gone."
Joel and Benji were sixteen then, and it was the last time they saw their dad. Only Benji has spoken with him since. "I tried to call him and say, 'Hey, now that I'm nineteen, we can be friends, even though we had all these problems in the past,' " Benji says. "I was willing to put it all aside. And basically he was like, 'I'm trying to start a new life. I'm trying to forget about you guys.' The last time I ever talked to him was on the phone that day."
With their dad gone for good, things went from bad to worse. First, the family was evicted from its rustic two-story house set back in the woods of Waldorf -- the only place where Benji and Joel had ever had separate rooms -- and the family went to stay with nearby relatives. "There were a few kids that would point out the fact that our family didn't have anywhere to live, repeatedly," says Benji. "And that was just a bummer; like, how can you get a date with a girl when you don't even have a house?" Eventually, the Maddens found a small farmhouse. "This farmer guy basically let us live there for nothing," says Benji.
Then, Benji and Joel's mother, who was working as a receptionist and a hairstylist, suffered a recurrence of lupus, a stress-related disorder that kept her in and out of the hospital, often for weeks at a time. With their mom laid up, the twins took jobs to support the family. Benji estimates he and Joel each had about fifteen jobs before they turned twenty, including stints as busboys at "probably all the restaurants" in Waldorf and as shampoo boys at a local salon. When they should have been studying or hanging out, the twins worried about more urgent things -- "like the electricity getting cut off or the car breaking down or the phone getting cut off," Joel says. "Or oil running out, for heat. Sometimes there was no heat for four or five days till you could get more oil, 'cause it's, like, a hundred dollars."
As the stress mounted at home, the differences in the twins' personalities became apparent. Benji, brawnier and more quick-tempered than his brother, put up a tough-guy front, and Joel, the more sensitive of the two, pined for girls and moped around the house. "When my dad left, I was always the one that was kind of, like, crying about it, like, 'Why us, why us?' " Joel says. "Lucky for me, I had Benj. We've always been sidekicks. The chip he had on his shoulder was more out of necessity back then. But we always had each other all the time to say, 'Man, don't worry. It'll be all right, it'll get better.' "
After attending a Beastie Boys show in early 1996, Benji and Joel vowed to start their own band, and they began writing songs together. They befriended Thomas, the son of a Waldorf cop, who shared their love of Green Day, Rancid, Nirvana and Silverchair. And Good Charlotte was born.
When the band played its first gigs, its members were still learning to play their instruments, and Joel was so embarrassed onstage he sometimes sang with his back to the audience. But that didn't stop Benji and Joel from deciding that Good Charlotte was the most important thing in their lives. "I failed my social-studies class because we were doing this whole semester about getting ready for college, and I was like, 'I'm not going to college, I'm gonna be in my band,' " Joel says. "The day we started the band, the question was when we were going to make it, not if we were gonna make it.
"Our whole goal was getting signed," Joel continues. "So anything we could do, like reading books about getting signed, reading magazines -- you know, The Musician's Guide to Touring and Promotion. We'd come home from work and stay up till two or three or four playing guitar or making the things we sent to the record labels. You know, doing anything for the band. Then we'd have to get up at 6 or 6:30 to go to school."
"They never let their home life show," says Timothy Bodamer, the La Plata High School music teacher who taught the Maddens to play guitar. "They never bitched about anything. They knew exactly what they wanted. They were talking about agents -- this is high school."
Benji and Joel almost dropped out of La Plata High several times but stuck with it because they didn't want to disappoint their mom. After graduation, they moved to Annapolis, Maryland, a bigger town with an active music scene. There they met Martin, a fellow Silverchair enthusiast who soon joined as a guitarist. "A friend of mine said, 'You got to come down on Sunday night. These twins have been coming up from Waldorf, and they're really good,' " says Jimi Haha, the leader of the Annapolis band Jimmie's Chicken Shack. "We were always endeared by them, because they prayed every day. We would throw coasters at them while they were onstage, just to harden them. They were unashamed of being cheeseballs."
Good Charlotte got their first break opening for the ska-punk band Save Ferris, in Philadelphia in 1999. After their show, the band left behind a demo of "Little Things" that got into the hands of a DJ at Y100, a Philly modern-rock station. After several spins, the song became a local hit. Labels started to show interest, and a showcase in New York in early 2000 led the band to Epic Records. "It was a very exciting time," Benji says. "My first time in New York I was so intimidated by the size of the city, I wanted to go home. I wish I had videos of me and Joel and Billy and Paul. I mean, looking back, we were so little; we had never been anywhere. So getting signed, the way everything came together, was exactly how I dreamed."
Released in the fall of 2000, Good Charlotte resulted in little airplay and quickly fizzled. But last September, The Young and the Hopeless spawned "Lifestyles of the Rich and the Famous," their breakthrough hit. "I was like, 'I can't finish this song,' " Joel says. "Me and Benj would get into fights about it. And then one day I went in alone and I just finished it in a matter of twenty minutes. When we gave our record company the album, they were like, ' "Lifestyles" is a great song.' And I was like, 'Really?' " Backed by chunky guitars and a drumbeat lifted from Iggy Pop's "Lust for Life," the single is essentially a dis of overprivileged celebrities who "piss and moan inside the Rolling Stone." And as they note more than once as we drive around Waldorf, Good Charlotte are trying their hardest today to avoid doing just that.
The tour of Waldorf ends at Ledo's pizza parlor, another old hangout. As we eat what turns out to be a free meal (courtesy of the owner, a Good Charlotte fan), the band drinks Coke and talks about old friends and favorite rappers, especially Jay-Z and Master P. When the subject turns to partying, they speak with quiet awe of their friend Tony Lovato, the singer for the pop-punk band Mest. "One night everyone's on tour and everyone's drinking," Benji says. "And everyone threw up in this pitcher. Pissed in it. Put cigarette butts in it. Spit in it. Anything possible. Tony drank it. And he couldn't sing for three days because of the stomach acids from the vomit."
Compared with this kind of debauchery, Good Charlotte party like soccer moms. Though Thomas, Martin and Joel drink occasionally, they rarely get out of control, and none of them drink when they're around Benji. That's because Benji was dogged by his family's demons even after Good Charlotte scored their record deal, drinking heavily and frequently getting into fights on early tours. "Alcoholism runs in the family," Joel says. "Benj is an alcoholic. My dad's an alcoholic, his dad's an alcoholic. Benji doesn't like talking about it. But he had to stop. He counts his months. He's been sober for a year and a half."
The band doesn't really mind if its nice-guy image hurts its punk-rock credibility, either. "You know, it's funny," says Joel, eating a slice of thin-crust pepperoni. "You're probably the first person who hasn't focused on why we are or are not punk this whole interview. It's very clichÈ for rock & roll journalists to go, 'Well, you're not punk.' We don't care if we are, we don't care if we aren't."
There are, of course, many things about Good Charlotte that are not very punk, starting with the fact that they're really psyched about appearing on TRL. Thomas still lives at home, and they all admit to loving their moms very, very much. "A lot of people get a shitty deal: They got a fucked-up dad and then they have a shitty mom," Joel says. "We got lucky. We had a fucked-up dad but a great mom." Besides writing her a thank-you song on their first album, Benji and Joel bought her a house near Waldorf with their first big royalty checks.
To its credit, the band isn't afraid to show off its sensitive side on songs such as "Emotionless" and "The Story of My Old Man," both of which address their dad. "Even though we might blush when we sing and we might get embarrassed because the songs are so personal," Joel says, "I think it's worth it."
"Growing up definitely sucked," Benji adds. "But if it wasn't for all that stuff, we wouldn't have started our band. And you know, I can't even count how many letters I got from kids whose dad left them. That's pretty much the most fulfilling thing you can get."
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GC on the cover of the April issue of Kerrang!
 

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Amanda: Every sunday night I'm hear as a loner but tonight - I'm no longer a loner, Benji and Joel from Good Charlotte are joining me PLUS a whole bunch of fans. How are you guys? Joel: uh we're doing good. Benji: I feel like im in a combat zone with all these people around us like we're about to fight (Joel and Benji raise their fists at eachother) Joel: Yeah we'll fight over you (points to amanda) Amanda: Who would win in a fight between you two? Joel: uh no comment Amanda: whose the muscle man? (Benji points to himself) Joel: you'd probably beat both of us up. Amanda: ya its true its true Benji: its true, you wanna try? Amanda: arm wrestle? arm wrestle? awww.. Benji: no i'm just kidding Joel: mud wrestle Amanda: see I'm thinking arm wrestle and your your thinking.... something.. naked. Benji: bad stuff Amanda: lets talk about your new album - the young and the hopless - feel good album title of the year. Joel: yes. Benji: feel good ALBUM of the year. Joel: this record will change your life. Benji: it will change who you are, if your a boy you'll become a girl and it your a girl you'll become a boy and so on and so fourth. Amanda: forget everyone out there getting sex change operations all they have to do is buy this album. thats it. so whos hopless? are you guys hopless is everyone hopless? Benji: I'd say probably me Amanda: You? Joel: good charlotte, the young and the hopless its another name for us young and the hopless Its kinda like a punk-rock soap opera the whole record . The record is basically the last two years of our lives and its been very..... Benji: a punk-rock soap opera. Joel: ya so we did the record... Benji: the drama Amanda: really Joel: if you only knew Amanda: so your actually his father and someones having an affair with someone?
Joel: naaaw y'know just a...the critics and all of the people out there who like to point fingers and try to break us apart but we just get stronger and we just keep doing better. young and hopless is boring. Amanda: oh well it sounded like there was alot of hope on this record Joel: cool we're hopeful people Benji: ya Amanda: do you guys feel your watching the critics, do you feel like you have to defend yoursleves... Benji: no Amanda: ...in terms of credibilty? Benji: no but we have to acknowledge them, you gotta give 'em a nod like ya we know your out there y'know Joel: y'know we we y'know dont defend anything we dont have anything to prove but like we defintly acknowledge it. Benji: we're defenseless Joel: ya. we're helpless... hopless helpless. no but uh we just y'know we acknowledge that there are haters and we love it. I mean y'know you just roll with it. Amanda: take it in strides Joel: we gotta be doing good if people hate us Benji: we also got all these lovely people supporting us (kinda overlapping these too) Joel: plus we got our fans Amanda: like these people right here. Joel: you see the young and the hopless is not only about us its about are fans too because there really the only people who stick with us and the only people we really care about are all these kids. y'know and all you kids out there (points at camera) and then all the little nerds that sit in there on their computers and write up reviews and like rip us apart. Benji: "they suck" Joel: ya "they suck blah blah blah" we.. Benji: we already know that, write something knew. Amanda: you know you think you suck * or you know there opinions... Benji: *ya we're not a good rock band (joel looks at benji like what?) thats why we're a punk-rock band. Joel: ya Amanda (laughing): well y'know the modesty is very loveable and I think thats why you've got these loyal fans. Benji: they feel sorry for us Joel (looks towards camera blushing): loveable? Amanda: they waited - no I'm serious it is Benji: well we love them so Joel: we like too.. Amanda: its nice to hear people who are just y'know your modest and doing your thing. Joel: aaw we just love what we do and we love our fans. Benji: I say that the only other better way to make a living is playing hockey. Amanda: you ever play hockey? Benji: no but Canada loves hockey Joel: we're in Canada right? (*all said at the same time*) Amanda: Your saying that just becuase you on canadian TV! your a bunch of suck-ups one second your saying you dont care what people think next second your sucking up. I dunno. Benji: if i played hockey.... i would score.....the most home-runs anybody...
Joel: and i would score with all the girls. I'm just kidding just playing (talking to crowd) laugh it up doc c'mon Amanda: i think we need a laugh track. Benji: you need to have a person with a sign that says "LAUGH" Joel: its like a really bad sitcom, our life is a really bad sitcom Amanda: soap opera to sitcom Joel: its gunna get cancelled soon right? Amanda (stops smiling): nooo nooooo Joel: alright i was just kidding Benji (too amanda): you're too nice Amanda: the guy who produced your album, Erik Valentine went back with... Benji: Valentinio Amanda: Valentinio.. really? Benji: no Amanda: he's italian i didnt realize i guess (laughs) Benji: no thats just a little something we call him in the studio. Amanda: he went back to DC with you to hang out for a bit, get a sense of where your from. why is it important to you for people to know where your from and what you've been through? Joel: because where were from is different where alot of our friends are from and like Erik y'know when he first met us he thought we were just like alot of other bands and he kinda wanted to see what was different and he came where we live, DC is like a town all on itself and when you live there.... Benji (interupts): it is a town all on itself... Joel: ...like like its just a whole nother world... Benji:...thats why they call it a city Joel: ...but like touring around the world - shut up benj. Benji: alright. Joel: like touring all around the world, DC is different then every place and we wanted him to see y'know where we're from. Benji: where we hang out with our friends Joel: told him old stories and stuff like that. Amanda: did you scare him away? Joel: n-aawwell y'know... gave him a little shake Benji: I'd be like 'hey erik here's the spot where i got my ass kicked by those three guys and there's were i lost these teeth (points to his front teeth)
Amanda:awww Joel:that's right Benji:no i'm just kidding (laughs) no it was good it was really good for the record just 'cause we told him what kind of record we wanted to make and he kinda shared his vision for us, with us and then we went back and like he was like y'know we got to know eachother really well and just hanging out for three days we became friends with him so we had fun making the record Amanda:that's awesome and you not sick of one another yet... (Joel Interupts) Joel:like if we didnt like you we couldnt be doing this interview right now but I like you Amanda:your saying you like me Benji & Joel: ya Amanda:i think i like you guys to there might hafta be a fight here Joel:i have no shame i'll fight a girl Benji:(thinks for a second..) HEY! Amanda:it's on...it's on Benji:wow man tough crowd tonight Amanda:i know no ones laughing lets get one big loud laugh for all the jokes there trying to make, c'mon 1, 2, 3 (mild laugher) Amanda: ha ha wowsee Joel:that's bad Amanda:...see I'm bombing too Joel:if I was tom green y'know if i was tom green Amanda:we're all not funny together its a tragedy its gone from soap opera to sitcom to just something... Joel:something Amanda: tragic Benji:i gotta say thought I love Canada Amanda:thats got some people clapping Joel:yous guys got Sum 41, Simple Plan, Gob, all our friends Amanda:one person clapped behind me Benji:i gotta give a shout out to Sum 41 those those are me boys Joel: Sum 41 whats up guys Amanda:there you go Benji:i cant wait to hear there new record Amanda:thats a very nice little shoutout Joel:we have a lot of friends y'know we try to shout 'em out while we can Amanda:good Joel:i dont know if we're alowwed to do that on TV Amanda:you're alowwed to do whatever you want Joel:big shout outs Benji:you guys got uh Celine Dion too right? Amanda:you wanna make a shout-out to Celine she might be watching if she's not working on the Stuart Little soundtrack Benji:hey Celine don't tell you husband about that one time alright Joel:yeah... Amanda:oh goodness oh goodness now you guys..... Joel:Avril Lavigne Benji:my heart will go on Joel:Avril Lavigne what about Avril Lavigne Benj? Benji:oh uh Avril dont tell your husband about that one time Joel:very... husband...dont tell your band y'know shes got all her little boyfriends in the band Benji:i know that, you know that how many of you guys think that when she's on tour Avril Lavigne makes out with her band Joel:probably right Amanda: no no alright y'know what (in backround joel and benji repeatedly saying ya) Benji:if i was in a band with a chick it wouldnt be for the music (amanda's jaw drops) Joel:OOHH! thats messed up! Benji:ahh I'm just kidding Amanda:alrigth I'm just talking with you now (joel and amanda put there arms over eachother to cut benji out) Joel:ok alright ok you got you got.. Benji:that was a joke! that was a joke! Joel:get outta here benji (joel and amanda put there hands in benjis face) Amanda:your banished your banished (Benji sits down beside a fan but stands back up when amanda starts talking) Amanda:alrght then y'know what lets get a question fromt he audience Sara, (not me lol) Sara has a question there she is hiding the mic behind her back Sara:I just wanted to know what my bloody valentine was about Joel:um um ya thats good no one ever asks about that song Sara:ok Joel:and uh its about being so jealous thats you uh wanna take a girl away from hwe boyfriend uhh so you...... basically its like a like a murder story its like a murder novel y'know kinda like a fairytale or whatever a fictional kind of fantasy y'know thats whats its about tis like a poem Benji:have you guys ever heard of Edgar Allen Poe Amanda:(nods) Edgar Allen Poe Joel:ya Edgar Allen Poe Benji:its sorta like that Joel:that was kinda the inspiration - Tell Tale Heart and all was kinda the inspiration of the song Sara:so Sid and Nancy wasn't inspired to that? Joel:that too Sara:cuz thats what i think thats what i think of when i hear that song Joel:thats cool cuz thats weird cuz like no one like.... Benji:it would be like if if if Jonny Rotten was in love with Nancy and she was dating Sid he would kill Sid so that he could be with her Sara:ya Benji:the whole moral of the story is Joel:dont do it Benji:you shouldnt murder someone ever.... Joel:right Benji:...ever Amanda:thats the moral. Benji:(looks at amanda adoringly - but joking) but sometimes you feel so passionate that you would Joel:(in the backround)ya so its just a story Amanda:(to benji)have you considered acting because this is beautiful (They Laugh) Amanda:I'm about to cry alright how so you guys - obviously your fans are listening to the lyrics Joel:ya Amanda:as the band is getting more and more popular are you worried about maintaining such a close relationship with your fans I know your fans are a big part of what makes good charlotte Joel:i think that uh thats thats probably the most important thing like this record was basically written for our fans like "hold on" like everynight on tour at least 1, 2 sometimes 10 kids tell me how they deal with suicide like that there thinking about and I couldnt sleep at night cuz all of these kids like they're fans I care about and i dont want 'em to kill themselves so i wrote "hold on" and put it on the record and that was like the only way i could do something about it y'know and uh just uh our fans are the most important thing to me in this whole band and uh like theres so many kids out there that i meet and that i care about and i only get like 2minutes with them and then i hafta go on y'know what i mean Benji:and you hope that you said the right thing Joel:and you hope you say ya y'know Benji:i mean really my whole goal is to basically I wanna go solo one day and uh i wanna really...(all laugh) I plan on moving to LA and just forgetting where i came from and if i see a fan... Joel:shut up benj Benji:...i'll just look down and sorta... Joel:comedy your all about comedy Benji:No i think always its alwasy i think its always the goal in life to keep in tough with your fans and like be as like accesible and like talk to as many kids as you can th-y'know there are sometimes when there there are too many kids and we cant get to everyone but y'know we always want we always want to Joel:i love like we we're passionate we love our fans like i hope we can just keep making musi for them. Amanda:well i know your fans have been requesting your video like MONTHS before ever started playing it... Joel:thank-you Amanda:e-mails have been pouring in so we're gunna go to it right now just real quick, Chris Kirpatrick is in here, Kyle Gass, Mike Wadd..evyerone - your dog Benji&Joel:(both said it kind overlapping) yeah cashdogg Amanda:yeah whats going on tell us about it before we go to the video Joel:yeah it was a big party Benji:well uh see Chris Kirpatrick and Kyle were - and even Mike - were shoe-ins they were easy they were like ya we'd love to...Cash was a little bit of work he didnt really wanna do the video Amanda:now... Joel:Our dog is.... Benji:he said that us being such a mainstream corporate rock band it would hurt his credibility Joel:ya (Amanda Laughs) Benji:he's such a punk rock dog y'know so we had to talk him into it Joel:yeah write up a contract Benji:yeah y'know Joel:there was a certain price involved with him ya Benji:ya Joel:but all the other guys Chris and KG and Mike Wadd they were cool and they just came and they did it Benji:it was fun Joel:it was fun Amanda:awesome alright well lets get to it. you guys are playing in Toronto tonight at the Kool Haus and if you wanna check out some dates head on over to goodcharlotte.com (Benji gives thumbs up) Joel:thank-you Amanda:here's Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous (Video is now played)
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Credit goes to: http://www.goodcharlottemusic.cjb.net/
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